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NSS Dec 4th Recap: Bucks Get 13 straight!! LeBron & Melo Win! Prep For Friday!!

NSS Dec 4th Recap: LeBron & Melo Win! Will Prep For Friday!! Bucks Get 13th Straight

Bucks Beat Pistons for 13th Straight Win

Giannis is averaging 31 Ppg, 13.2 Reb, 5.5 Ast shooting 56.5 FG% and 31.8 3P%.  Giannis has been on full beast mode running through any team that they play.  The recap for this game is that its over and now the focus for the bucks can be on facing the Clippers on Friday December 6th and it won’t even be televised.

Lakers travel through Jazz

               I don’t know what’s it going to take for the Jazz to regroup and figure something out.  Lakers just keep on rolling and Jazz keep frustrating me.

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Blazers Bounce Back Against the Kings

               The Blazers team that played against the was totally different team that played the Clippers.  Blazers’ Fantastic Four or “The Blazing Four” or “Four Blazers” (Yay or Nay?) showed up and played both offensively and defensively.  CJ led scoring with 33 Points, Dame followed with 24, Whiteside double-double with 22 points and 16 reb (also 3 blocks) and Melo finish with 22.  This win puts Blazers 4 games under 500 and on the 9th spot in the West trailing the Suns.

Blazers play Lakers on Friday.

Mavs scored 41 points in the 4th quarter to beat Wolves

               Luka keeps rolling, has his performances being MVP worthy?? Wolves have now lost 2 straight and possibly trending down, but they play the Thunder so there is hope.  Back to Luka what cant he do? Mavs 15-6 record are only behind the Nuggets due to percentage.  Imo Luka > Nuggets.

Bulls Beat Grizzlies: What’s the Bulls plan?

               Anybody else confused about the Bulls plan for the season?

Ja Morant missed his 3rd straight game due to back soreness.  Good luck with the recovery.

Pacers beat Thunder: What’s Chris Paul doing?

               Chris Paul played 33 mins scored 4 points and got 10 Assist but what is he really doing? How is either Paul or the Thunder benefiting from this fit.  Are the Thunder waiting for the best for Paul? Remember last time somebody (Daryl Morey) said they wouldn’t trade Paul, he got traded.  The Thunder are not “saying” they are going to trade Paul, but it just seems like they just don’t want to say it.

Nets Beat Hawks For 3rd straight, without Kyrie, who will be missing more time.

               NETS ARE DOING GREAT WITHOUT KYRIE.  No knock nor hate on Kyrie, but the Nets players deserve some credit, other than Kyrie and KD are out and Nets win. Nets roster deserve lots of credit.

               Trae Young has so many great nights, I just hope that eventually the Hawks will start winning on some of those nights too.

Magic denied Suns from getting to 500 and make a 3rd straight win.

               Suns have been struggling to get back to 500, this team started hot and then took a dive in an ice pool.  Magic’ Markelle Fultz is starting and taking full advantage of his (limited) minutes opportunities.  Gordon’s 32 Points is a season high and also when 5-5 from 3pt, talk about “magic” (pun intended).  Magic are in the 8th spot and facing the Cavaliers on Friday, 500 may be reachable.

Where Did Devonte’ Graham come from and where has he been?

               Graham is becoming a household name!! just saying the Hornets future may be in good hands.  Graham hit 10 3s, which makes me think if hitting 10 3s in a game is going to become as regular as a triple double??

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Top 5 Mid Range Shooters In The Last NBA Season

Top 5 Mid Range Shooters In The Last NBA Season

 

Note: Minimum of at least 100 attempts

  1. No shocker the best midrange shooters was the best shooter in NBA history, Stephen Curry who shot 78/130 (60%). Haters claim he only shoots 3s but clearly he takes his fair share of midrange Js as well. steph
  2. Chris Paul going 97/180 (53.9%) on midrange was not a surprise as overall he’s a good shooter from all over the court, has high basketball IQ so his shot selection is on point. usa_today_10852197.0
  3. This dude actually came off the bench but wounded up top 3 in this list, having said that Trey Burke of the New York Knicks was 89/166(53.6%) from midrange. NBA: New York Knicks at Denver Nuggets
  4. At number four we have the last one to shoot at least 50% from midrange, minimum of 100 attempts. TJ McConnell of the Philadelphia 76ers shot 51/102(50%), some may assume he’s a bum since he is a white player off the bench but this man is underrated and will always hustle. 3075597_1280x720
  5. Kyrie Irving aka Uncle Drew was 112/225 (49.8%) from midrange which again wasn’t a shocker. GettyImages-930632234

Honorable mention: Barely behind Kyrie was sharpshooter JJ Redick another 76er who will likely be top 10 next season as well in this category. Anyways, as of last season he went 146/296(49.3%) from midrange. Memphis Grizzlies v Philadelphia 76ers

 

Garnett Vs Nowitzki

The big ticket vs the Germanator

Apparently there are many NBA  fans out there who believe Dirk should he ranked higher all time than Kevin Garnett  aka The Big Ticket as a power forward. After debating for a bit I decided to do my own unbiased research and learn  from both sides with undivided attention and come to a legit conclusion.

Note: Since comparing each of their seasons to one another would take awhile due to their really long careers, I decided to compare their 5 best individual yrs, top ones are for KG, bottom yrs are Dirk’s 5 best seasons, then in the end we’ll see their accomplishments.

Scoring

Season Kevin Garnett Dirk Nowitzki
1999-2000 (23) KG
2001-2002 (23) Dirk
  • 23.0ppg
  • 9.1/18.1 FGA = .502%
  • True shooting % = 54.5
  • 4.6/6.1 FTA = 75%
  • 105.9 ORTG
  • 69.8% of FGM assisted
  • 30.2% of FGM unassisted
  • 23.4ppg
  • 7.9/16.6 FGA = 48%
  • 1.8/4.6 on 3s= 40%
  • TS % = 60%
  • 5.8/6.8 FTA = 85%
  • 112 ORTG
  • 69.2 % of FGM assisted
  • 30.8% of FGM unassisted
2002-2003 (age 26) KG
2002-2003 Dirk
  • 23ppg
  • 9.1/18.1 FGA = 50%
  • True shooting = 55.3%
  • 4.6/6.1 FTA = 79%
  • 105.9 ORTG
  • 59.4% of FGM assisted
  • 40.6% FGM unassisted
  • 25.1ppg
  • 8.6/18.6 FGA = 46%
  • 1.9/4.9 on 3s = 39%
  • TS % = 58%
  • 6/6.9 FTA = 88%
  • 112 ORTG
  • 65.5% of FGM assisted
  • 35.5% of FGM unassisted
2003-2004 (MVP) KG
2004-2005 Dirk
  • 24.6ppg
  • 9.8/19.6 FGA = 50%
  • True shooting = 54.7%
  • 4.5/5.7 FTA = 79%
  • 105.9 ORTG
  • 66.5% of FGM assisted
  • 33.5 % of FGM unassisted
  • 26.1ppg
  • 8.6/18.6 FGA = 46%
  • 1.2/2.9 on 3s = 40%
  • TS % = 58%
  • 7.9/9.1 FTA = 87%
  • 110.2 ORTG
  • 53.4 % of FGM assisted
  • 46.6 % of FGM unassisted
2004-2005 KG
2005-2006  Dirk
  • 22.2ppg
  • 8.3/16.6 FGA = 50%
  • True shooting = 56.7%
  • 5.4/6.7 FTA= 81 %
  • 105.2 ORTG
  • 66.5% of FGM assisted
  • 33.5% of FGM unassisted
  • 26.6ppg
  • 9.3/19.3 FGA = 48%
  • TS % = 59%
  • 1.4/3.3 on 3s = 41%
  • 6.7/7.4 FTA = 90%
  • 111.3 ORTG
  • 50.7% of FGM assisted
  • 49.3 % of FGM unassisted
2005-2006 KG
2006-2007 (MVP) Dirk
  • 21.8ppg
  • 8.2/15.7 FGA = 53%
  • True shooting = 58.9%
  • 5.2 / 6.4 FTA = 81%
  • 102.2 ORTG
  • 60.5% of FGM assisted
  • 39.5% of FGM unassisted
  • 24.6ppg
  • 8.6/17.2 FGA = 50%
  • TS % = 60%
  • 0.9/2.2 on 3s = 42%
  • 6.4/7.1 FTA = 90%
  • 112.5 ORTG
  • 50.1 % of FGM assisted

Thoughts: Dirk being able to create space by being a stretch 4 most certainly gives his team a plus KG couldn’t provide, not to mention he beats KG in just about every category up there which gives the Germanator the edge.

Shooting Kevin Garnett Dirk Nowitzki
99-00 KG
2001-2002 Dirk
  • 232/337 (68%) in restricted area
  • 157/327 (48%) in paint. non R.A.
  • 504/1145 (44%) on jumpshots.
  • 340/781 (43%) on midrange Js
  • 189/311 (61%) in restricted area
  • 46/122 (38%) in paint non R.A.
  • 409/945 (43.3%) on jumpshots
  • 13/37 (35%) on corner 3s
  • 228/477 (48%) on midrange Js
2002-2003 KG
2002-2003 Dirk
  • 235/331 (71%) in restricted area
  • 142/348 (41%) in paint non R.A.
  • 503/1145 (44%) on jumpshots
  • 346/731 (47%) on midrange Js
  • 171/252 (68%) in restricted area
  • 74/159 (46.5%) in paint non R.A.
  • 518/1240 (42%) on jumpshots
  • 27/63 ( 43%) on corner 3s
  • 298 /689 (43%) on midrange Js
2003-2004 KG
2004-2005 Dirk
  • 256/383 (68%) in restricted area
  • 140/289 (48.4%) in paint non R.A.
  • 351/953 (37%) on jumpshots
  • 397/896 (44%) on midrange Js
  • 172/272 (63%) in restricted area
  • 59/130 (45%) in paint non R.A.
  • 486/1162 (42%) on jumpshots
  • 10/26 (38%) on corner 3z
  • 81/200 (40.5%) top of the key 3s
  • 341/815 (42%) on midrange Js
2004-2005 KG
2005-2006 Dirk
  • 253/391 (65%) in restricted area
  • 136/304 (45%) in paint non R.A.
  • 420/949 (44%) on jumpshots
  • 288/641 (45%) on midrange Js
  • 153/259 (59%) in restricted area
  • 121/272 (44.5%) in paint non R.A.
  • 590/1294 (46%) on jumpshots
  • 10/19 (53%) on corner 3s
  • 100/247 (40.5%) on top of the key 3s
  • 367/762 (48%) in midrange Js
2005-2006 KG
2006-2007 Dirk
  • 218/328 (66.5%) in restricted area
  • 97/204 (47.5%) in paint non R.A.
  • 395/847 (47%) on jumpshots
  • 303/629 (48%) on midrange Js
  • 148/251 (59%) in restricted area
  • 100/206 (48.5%)  in paint non R.A.
  • 521/1085 (48%)
  • 6/13 (46%) on corner 3s
  • 66/158 (42%) on top of the key 3s
  • 353/711 (50%) on midrange Js

Comments: Dirk who was part of the 40 50 90 club most certainly was the better 3pt shooter, has a slight edge on midrange Js, however KG was superior at attacking the rim or down low in the paint.  Tie

Defense Kevin Garnett Dirk Nowitzki
99-00 KG
01-02 Dirk
  • 99 DRTG
  • 5.6 defensive win shares
  • 32.1 opponent’s points in paint.
  • 120 steals
  • 126 blocks
  • 105.4 DRTG
  • 3.1 defensive win shares
  • 34.9 opponent’s paint points
  • 83 steals
  • 77 blocks
2002-2003 KG
2002-2003 Dirk
  • 99.1 DRTG
  • 5.8 defensive win shares
  • 31.4 opponent’s paint points
  • 113 steals
  • 129 blocks
  • 98 DRTG
  • 5.3 defensive win shares
  • 30.6 opponent’s paint points
  • 111 steals
  • 82 blocks
2003-2004 KG
2004-2005 Dirk
  • 95.5 DRTG
  • 8 defensive win shares
  • 28.4 opponent’s paint points
  • 120 steals
  • 178 blocks
  • 100.6 DRTG
  • 5.2 defensive win shares
  • 31.9 opponent’s paint points
  • 97 steals
  • 119 blocks
2004-2005 KG
2005-2006 Dirk
  • 104 DRTG
  • 6 defensive  win shares
  • 30.2 opponent’s paint points
  • 121 steals
  • 112 blocks
  • 102.7 DRTG
  • 4.3 defensive win shares
  • 28.4 opponent’s paint points
  • 58 steals
  • 83 blocks
2005-2006 KG
2006-2007 Dirk
  • 101.4 DRTG
  • 7 win shares
  • 31.7 opponent’s paint points
  • 104 steals
  • 107 blocks
  • 101.4 DRTG
  • 4.5 defensive win shares
  • 28.2 opponent’s paint points
  • 52 steals
  • 62 blocks

Thoughts: Two key points missing include that  KG made all defensive teams 12x, and won Defensive Player of the Year one time, Dirk has never made any all defensive teams or came close to winning DPOY. Garnett did guard the rim a lot more than Dirk did so  the odds of more points in the paint by the opponent is likely.

Playmaking Kevin Garnett Dirk Nowitzki
1999-2000 KG
2001-2002 Dirk
  • 5.0 apg, 401 total
  • 1.50 ast/tov ratio
  • 27.6% usage rate
  • 21.1 assist %
  • 2.4apg, 186 total
  • 1.28 ast/tov ratio
  • 25.4% usage rate
  • 10.5 assist %
2002-2003 KG
2002-2003 Dirk
  • 6.0 apg, 495 total
  • 2.6 ast/ tov ratio
  • 26.2% usage rate
  • 24.9 assist %
  • 3.0apg, 239 total
  • 1.57 ast/tov ratio
  • 27.3% usage rate
  • 12.9 assist %
2003-2004 KG
2004-2005 Dirk
  • 5.0 apg, 409 total
  • 1.93 ast/tov ratio
  • 29.4% usage rate
  • 23.3 assist %
  • 3.1apg, 240 total
  • 1.36 ast/tov ratio
  • 28.6% usage rate
  • 13.8 assist %
2004-2005 KG
2005-2006 Dirk
  • 5.7 apg, 466 total
  • 2.10 ast/tov ratio
  • 26.9% usage rate
  • 26.4 ast %
  • 2.8apg, 226 total
  • 1.45 ast/tov ratio
  • 30.1% usage rate
2005-2006 KG
2006-2007 Dirk
  • 4.1 apg, 308 total
  • 1.70 ast/tov ratio
  • 25.6% usage rate
  • 19 ast %
  • 3.4apg, 263 total
  • 1.57 ast/tov ratio
  • 28.9% usage rate
  • 16.9 assist %

Comments: Both big men played with  high basketball IQ-ed traditional points guards, Garnett had Rondo and Billups. Dirk had Nash and Kidd. However, KG clearly has the edge in this.

Rebounding Kevin Garnett Dirk Nowitzki
1999-2000 KG
2001-2002 Dirk
  • 11.8 rpg, 956 total
  • 2.8 offensive rebs, 223 total
  • 9.0 defensive, 733 total  rebounds
  • 17.3 reb %
  • 9.9rpg, 755 total
  • 1.5 off rebs, 120 total
  • 8.4 def rebs, 635 total
  • 14.6 reb %
2002-2003 KG
2002-2003 Dirk
  • 13.4 rpg, 1102 total
  • 3.0 offensive rebs, 244 total
  • 9.4 def rebs, 858 total
  • 18.7 reb %
  • 9.9rpg, 791 total
  • 1.0 off rebs, 81 total
  • 8.9 def rebs, 710 total
  • 14 reb %
2003-2004 KG
2004-2005 Dirk
  • 13.9 rpg, 1139 total
  • 3.0 offensive rebs. 245 total
  • 10.9 def rebs, 894 total
  • 20.1 reb %
  • 9.7rpg, 757 total
  • 1.2 off rebs, 96 total
  • 8.5 def rebs, 661 total
  • 14 reb %
2004-2005 KG
2005-2006 Dirk
  • 13.5 rpg, 1108 total
  • 3.0 offensive rebs, 247 total
  • 10.5 def, 861 total
  • 20.3 reb %
  • 9.0rpg, 728 total
  • 1.4 off rebs, 115 total
  • 7.6 def rebs, 613 total
  • 14.2 reb %
2005-2006 KG
2006-2007 Dirk
  • 12.7 rpg, 966 total
  • 2.8 offensive rebs, 214 total
  • 9.9 def rebs, 752 total
  • 19.9 reb %
  • 8.9rpg, 693 total
  • 1.6 off rebs, 122 total
  • 7.3 def rebs, 571 total
  • 14.9 reb %

Thoughts: No doubt Kevin who led the league in rebs 4x was the superior rebounder based off eye tests and stats.

PLAYOFFS Kevin Garnett Dirk Nowitzki
1999-2000 KG  (4 games)
2001-2002 Dirk (8 games)
  • 18.8ppg
  • 10.8rpg
  • 8.8apg
  • 7.5/19.5 FGA (38%)
  • 1.3 stls
  • .8 blks
  • 28.4ppg
  • 13.1rpg
  • 2.3apg
  • 9.1/20 FGA (.445%)
  • 16/28 on 3s (57%)
  • 2 stls
  • .8 blks
2002-2003 KG (6 games)
2002-2003 Dirk (17 games)
  • 27ppg
  • 15.7rpg
  • 5.2apg
  • 11.8/23 FGA (51%)
  • 1.7 stls
  • 1.7 blks
  • 25.3ppg
  • 11.5rpg
  • 2.2apg
  • 8.8/18.4 FGA (48%)
  • 27/61 on 3s (44%)
  • 1.2 stls
  • .9.blks
2003-2004 KG (18 games)
2004-2005 Dirk (13 games)
  • 24.3ppg
  • 14.6rpg
  • 5.1apg
  • 9.3/20.7 FGA (45%)
  • 1.3 stls
  • 2.3 blks
  • 23.7ppg
  • 10.1rpg
  • 3.3apg
  • 7.9/19.7 FGA (40%)
  • 10/33 on 3s (33%)
  • 1.4 stls
  • 1.6 blks
2004-2005 KG
2005-2006 Dirk (23 games)
MISSED THE PLAYOFFS
  • 27ppg
  • 11.7rpg
  • 2.9apg
  • 8.5/18.2 FGA (47%)
  • 23/67 on 3s (34%)
  • 1.1 stls
  • .6 blks
2005-2006 KG
2006-2007 Dirk ( 6 games)
MISSED THE PLAYOFFS
  • 19.7ppg
  • 11.3ppg
  • 2.3apg
  • 6.0/15.7 FGA (38%)
  • 4/19 on 3s (21%)
  • 1.8 stls
  • 1.3 blks

Thoughts: Dirk was the better shooter, scorer, better at stealing as well, but Garnett was the superior rebounder, rim protector, passer. Tie

CRUNCH TIME (last 5 mins game within 5) 4th Q Kevin Garnett Dirk Nowitzki
1999-2000 KG
2001-2002 Dirk
  • 167 mins
  • 146 pts
  • 50/91 (55%)
  • 55 rebs
  • 9 asts (18 tovs)
  • 44/58 FTAs
  • 4 stls, 5 blks
  • 110 mins
  • 75 points
  • 19/42 (45%)
  • 41 rebs
  • 11 asts (7 tovs)
  • 32/37 FT (86%)
  • 2 steals, 4 blks
  • 5/13 on 3s (38%)
2002-2003 KG
2002-2003 Dirk
  • 120 mins
  • 90 points
  • 35/64 (55%)
  • 45 rebs
  • 16 asts (9 tovs)
  • 20/29 FTA (69%)
  • 2 stls, 3 blks
  • 129 mins
  • 91 points
  • 26/51 (51%)
  • 46 rebs
  • 8 asts (4 tovs)
  • 33/38 FT (87%)
  • 4 steals, 5 blocks
  • 6/12 on 3s (50%)
2003-2004 KG
2004-2005 Dirk
  • 150 mins
  • 111 points
  • 40/83 (48%)
  • 44 rebs
  • 15 asts (3 tovs)
  • 29/35 FT (83%)
  • 2 steals, 7 blocks
  • 122 mins
  • 107 points
  • 22/64 (34%)
  • 46 rebs
  • 8 asts ( 5 tovs)
  • 62/70 FT (89%)
  • 2 steals, 7 blocks
  • 1/8 on 3s (12.5%)
2004-2005 KG
2005-2006 Dirk
  • 155 mins
  • 109 points
  • 38/77 (49%)
  • 47 rebs
  • 25 asts (12 tovs)
  • 33/39 FT (85%)
  • 4 steals, 4 blocks
  • 143 mins
  • 106 points
  • 27/81 (33%)
  • 51 rebs
  • 10 asts (7 tovs)
  • 49/54 FT (91%)
  • 0 steals, 5 blocks
  • 3/18 on 3s (17%)
2005-2006 KG
2006-2007 Dirk
  • 153 mins
  • 106 points
  • 33/73 (45%)
  • 47 rebs
  • 12 asts (3 tovs)
  • 3 steals, 8 blocks
  • 124 mins
  • 121 points
  • 37/77 (48%)
  • 37 rebs
  • 8 asts (4 tovs)
  • 3 steals, 2 blocks
  • 2/11 on 3s (18%)

Thoughts: In more mins Garnett scored 62 more points, grabbed 17 more rebs, dished out 32 more asts, stole the ball 4 more times, blocked 4 more shots, made more field goals on 9% higher field goal percentage. Dirk had more clutch 3s but shot a horrible 27% on that. Nowitzki also was much better at the FT line in crunch time. Overall KG has the edge….again.

Head to head (reg. season)

  • Dirk vs KG: 20-17, his career highs vs Kevin: 37pts (2x), 19 rebs, 6 asts, 2 stls, 5 blks, 67% FG (6 shots)
  • KG vs Dirk: 17-20, his career highs vs Dirk: 35pts, 22 rebs, 10 asts, 5 stls, 5 blks, 92 % FGA (12 shots)

   Career comparison

  • : Both have 1 NBA ring but Dirk won FMVP unlike KG.
  • Both  1x MVP winner
  • Dirk made a total of 12 ALL NBA teams to Kevin’s 9.
  • Both defeated LeBron James and Kobe Bryant in the playoffs/Finals.
  • 3x KG was top 3 in mvp voting, Dirk 3x as well.
  • Garnett led his team in all 5 major  categories 1x in 2003, Dirk never did such a thing.
  • Dirk did lead his team to the playoffs more times as the # 1 option.

Conclusion

After finishing the research I was surprised the debate was closer than I originally thought. In the end of the day both are NBA legends, can’t go wrong with either one as your franchise player but after all this research,  I’m still sticking with Garnett as the greater player, mainly because he was more versatile.

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Tracy McGrady vs Vince Carter

Tracy McGrady vs Vince Carter

Note: I’m going to compare each player’s 5 best years of each major  stat, for example I will compare McGrady’s 5 best offensive seasons to Vince’s, same goes for rebounds and assists etc. Then go to head to head, career etc.

Scoring Tracy McGrady Vince  Carter
2002-2003 Tmac
2000-2001 Vince
32.1ppg

11.1/24.2 = .457%

2.3/6 on 3s = .386%

7.7/9.7 on FTs = 79%

35.6% of FGM assisted

64.5% of FGM unassisted

106.6 ORTG

27.6ppg

10.2/22.1 = .460%

2.2/ 5.3 on 3s =.408%

5.1/ 6.7 on FTs = 76%

60.4% of FGM assisted

39.6% of FGM unassisted

104.6 ORTG

2003-2004 Tmac
99-00 Vince
28.0ppg

9.7/23.4 = .417%

2.6/7.7 on 3s = .339%

5.9/7.5 on FTs = .796%

49.8% of FGM assisted

50.2% of FGM unassisted

101.8 ORTG

25.7ppg

9.6/20.7 =.465%

1.2/2.9 on 3s = 40%

5.3/6.7 on FTs = 79%

57.5% of FGM assisted

42.5% of FGM unassisted

105.2 ORTG

2000-2001 Tmac
2006-2007 Vince
26.8ppg

10.2/22.4 = .457

0.8/2.2 on 3s = .355%

5.6/7.6 on FTs = 73%

45.6% of FGM assisted

54.4% of FGM unassisted

102.7 ORTG

25.2ppg

8.9/19.5 = .454%

1.9/5.3 on 3s = .357%

5.6/7.0 on FTs = 80%

53% of FGM assisted

47% of FGM unassisted

105.3 ORTG

2004-2005 Tmac
2001-2002 Vince
25.7ppg

9.2/21.3 = .431%

1.8/5.6 on 3s = .326%

5.5/7.1 on FTs = .774%

38.9% of FGM assisted

61.1% of FGM unassisted

104.5 ORTG

24.7ppg

9.3/21.8 = .428%

2.0/5.2 on 3s = .387%

4.1/ 5.1 on FTs = .798%

51.7% of FGM assisted

48.3% of FGM unassisted

101.3 ORTG

2001-2002 Tmac
2004-2005 Vince
25.6ppg

9.4/20.9 = 45%

1.4/3.7 on 3s = .364%

5.5/7.3 on FTs = .748%

42.1% of FGM assisted

57.9% of FGM unassisted

106.5 ORTG

24.5ppg

9/20 = 45%

1.6/4.1 on 3s = .406%

4.8/6.0 on FTs = 80%

56.8% of FGM assisted

43.2% of FGM unassisted

101.1 ORTG

Thoughts: Vince may be a little more efficient offensively but McGrady when needed can drop more points than Carter, in terms of iso, Tmac clearly has the edge on that, overall McGrady in those years was the better scorer.

Shooting  (Js = jumpshots) Tracy McGrady Vince Carter
2002-2003 Tmac
2000-2001 Vince
  • 548/1334 on Js (41.1%)
  • 327/757 from midrange  (43.2%)
  • 161/340 on layups (47%)
  • 7/23 on corner 3s (30%)
  • 166/422 top of the key 3s (39.3%)
  • 285/491 restricted area (58%)
  • True shooting = 56.4%
  • 497/1218 on Js (40.8%)
  • 295/698 from midrange (42.3%)
  • 102/226 on layups (45.1%)
  • 29/71 on corner 3s (41%)
  • 133/325 top of the key 3s (40.9%)
  • 255/420 restricted area (60.7%)
  • True shooting = 55.1%
2003-2004 Tmac
99-00 Vince
  • 473/1255 on Js (37.7%)
  • 286/687 on midrange (41.6%)
  • 96/209 on layups (45.9%)
  • 9/24 on corner 3s (.375%)
  • 164/487 top of the key 3s (33.7%)
  • 176/310 restricted area  (56.8%)
  • True shooting = 52.6%
  • 507/1268 on Js (40%)
  • 348/863 from midrange (40.3%)
  • 124/240 on layups (51.7%)
  • 16/31 on corner 3s (52%)
  • 79/199 top of the key 3s (39.7%)
  • 271/421 restricted area (64.3%)
  • True shooting = 54.3%
2000-2001 Tmac
2006-2007 Vince
  • 491/1216 on Js (40.4%)
  • 336/808 on midrange (41.6%)
  • 126/278 on layups (45.3%)
  • 7/15 on corner 3s (47%)
  • 52/149 on top of the key 3s (34.9%)
  • 300/528 restricted area (58.8%)
  • True shooting = 52.1%
  • 412/1056 on Js (39%)
  • 186/457 from midrange (40.7%)
  • 199/393 on layups (50.6%)
  • 24/54 on corner 3s (44%)
  • 122/381 top of the key 3s (34.6%)
  • 312/544 restricted area (57.4%)
  • True shooting = 55.9%
2004-2005 Tmac
2001-2002 Vince
  • 495/1277 on Js (38.8%)
  • 310/728 on midrange (42.6%)
  • 131/272 on layups (48.2%)
  • 7/25 on corner 3s (28%)
  • 135/405 on top of the key 3s (33.3%)
  • 221/390 restricted area (56.7%)
  • True shooting = 52.6%
  • 388/991 on Js (39.2%)
  • 201/531 from midrange (37.9%)
  • 70/163 on layups (42.9%)
  • 24/57 on corner 3s (42%)
  • 97/255 top of the key 3s (38%)
  • 162/289 restricted area (56%)
  • True shooting = 51.5%
2001-2002 Tmac
2004-2005 Vince
  • 402/1077 on Js (37.3%)
  • 229/612 on midrange  (37.4%)
  • 165/307 on layups (53.7%)
  • 8/21 on corner 3s(38%)
  • 95/256 top of the key 3s (37%)
  • 308/506 restricted area (61%)
  • True shooting = 52.6%
  • 452/1115 on Js (40.5%)
  • 232/575 from midrange  (40.3%)
  • 137/283 on layups (48.4%)
  • 13/36 on corner 3s (36%)
  • 114/275 top of the key 3s (41.5%)
  • 237/403 restricted area (58.8%)
  • True shooting = 54.1%

Comments: Vince does have the edge in jumpshots, but Tmac was the better shooter from midrange, the better finisher driving down the lane, to counteract that, Carter clearly has the edge on corner 3s, but McGrady in the restricted area was superior. To  make that up Vince Carter at the top of the key 3s he was much greater, he did have a higher true shooting % as well. It’s really close but McGrady might get the edge in this category.

DEFENSE Tracy McGrady Vince Carter
2002-2003 Tmac
2000-2001 Vince
  • 11.5 opponents 2nd chance ppg
  • 10.5 opponents  fastbreak ppg
  • 103.1 DRTG
  • 1.7 stls per game
  • 0.8 blks per game
  •     10.6 opponents 2nd chance ppg
  • 13.5 opponents fastbreak ppg
  • 99.4 DRTG
  • 1.5 stls per game
  • 1.5 blks
2003-2004 Tmac
99-00 Vince
  • 13.2 opponents 2nd chance ppg
  • 11.3 opponents  fastbreak ppg
  • 108.9 DRTG
  • 1.4 stls
  • 0.6 blks per game
  • 10.8 opponents 2nd chance ppg
  • 13.9 opponents fastbreak ppg
  • 101.6 DRTG
  • 1.3 stls
  • 1.1 blks per game
2000-2001 Tmac
2006-2007 Vince
  • 12.2 opponents 2nd chance ppg
  • 10.5 opponents fastbreak ppg
  • 98.2 DRTG
  • 1.5 stls per game
  • 1.5 blks per game
  • 9.3 opponents 2nd chance ppg
  • 8.8 opponents fastbreak ppg
  • 103.9 DRTG
  • 1 steal per game
  • .4 blocks per game
2004-2005 Tmac
2001-2002 Vince
  • 9.8 opponents 2nd chance ppg
  • 8.7 opponents fastbreak ppg
  • 100.4 DRTG
  • 1.7 stls per game
  • 0.7 blk per  game
  • 11.3 opponents 2nd chance ppg
  • 13.9 opponents fastbreak ppg
  • 99.8 DRTG
  • 1.6 stls per game
  • .7 blks per game
2001-2002 Tmac
2004-2005 Vince
  • 12.1 opponents 2nd chance ppg
  • 11.5 opponents  fastbreak ppg
  • 101.9 DRTG
  • 1.6 stls per game
  • 1 block per game
  • 9.8 opponents 2nd chance ppg
  • 8.8 opponents fastbreak ppg
  • 101.1 DRTG
  • 1.5 stls per game
  • .5 blks per game

Thoughts: As shown Vince C allowed less 2nd chance ppg of his opponent, however Tmac allowed less fastbreak ppg of his opponent. Carter’s defensive rating overall was lower which is a good thing, McGrady was a bit better at stealing, but not at shot blocking. Not by a lot but Air Canada was the better defender.

Playmaking Tracy McGrady Vince Carter
2002-2003 Tmac
2000-2001 Vince
  • 5.5apg
  • 2.11 ast/tov ratio
  • 28.2 ast %
  • 35 % usage rate
  • 943 pts generated by asts (PGA)
  • 3.9apg
  • 1.74 ast/tov ratio
  • 18.7 assist %
  • 30.5 % usage rate
  • 621 pts generated by asts
2003-20004 Tmac
99-00  Vince
  • 5.5apg
  • 2.07 ast/tov ratio
  • 27.2 ast %
  • 33 % usage rate
  • 802 pts generated by asts
  • 3.9apg
  • 1.84 ast/tov ratio
  • 19.5 assist %
  • 29.9% usage rate
  • N/A for pts generated by asts
2000-2001 Tmac
2006-2007 Vince
  • 5.3apg
  • 1.78 ast/tov ratio
  • 21. ast %
  • 31.1% usage rate
  • 787 pts generated by asts
  • 4.8apg
  • 1.81 ast/tov ratio
  • 24.5 assist %
  • 30.7% usage rate
  • 906 pts generated by asts
2004-2005 Tmac
2001-2002 Vince
  • 5.7apg
  • 2.23 ast/tov ratio
  • 27.6 ast %
  • 30.9% usage rate
  • 1026 pts generated by asts
  • 4.0apg
  • 1.55 ast/tov ratio
  • 19 assist %
  • 30.2% usage rate
  • 519 pts generated by asts
2001-2002 Tmac
2004-2005 Vince
  • 4.6apg
  • 2.12 ast/tov ratio
  • 25 ast %
  • 31.1% usage rate
  • 930 pts generated by asts
  • 4.7apg
  • 1.95 ast/tov ratio
  • 23.4 assist %
  • 31% usage rate
  • 603 pts generated by asts

Comments: With a higher usage rate Tmac did have avg more apg, generated way more points by assists, basically won every category, he won this one.

Rebounding Tracy McGrady Vince  Carter
2002-2003 Tmac
2000-2001 Vince
  • 6.5rpg
  • 1.6 offensive rebs
  • 4.9 defensive rebs
  • 5.5rpg
  • 2.3 offensive rebs
  • 3.2 defensive rebs
2003-2004 Tmac
99-00 Vince
  • 6.0rpg
  • 1.4 offensive rebs
  • 4.6 defensive rebs
  • 5.8 rpg
  • 1.8 offensive rebs
  • 4.0 defensive rebs
2000-2001 Tmac
2006-2007 Vince
  • 7.5rpg
  • 2.5 offensive rebs
  • 5 defensive rebs
  • 6.0rpg
  • 1.4 offensive rebs

4.6 defensive rebs

2004-2005 Tmac
2001-2002 Vince
  • 6.0rpg
  • .9 offensive rebs
  • 5.3 defensive rebs
  • 5.2rpg
  • 2.3 offensive rebs
  • 2.9 defensive rebs
2001-2002 Tmac
2004-2005 Vince
  • 7.9rpg
  • 2 offensive rebs
  • 5.9 defensive rebs
  • 5.2rpg
  • 1.4 offensive rebs
  • 3.8 defensive rebs

Thoughts: Although Carter averaged  more offensive rebs than Tmac, overall it is clear that McGrady was the superior rebounder despite playing with 7’6 giant Yao Ming.

Crunch time Tracy McGrady Vince Carter
2002-2003 Tmac
2000-2001 Vince
109 pts

32/74 (43%)

8/19 on 3s (42%)

17 rebs

21 asts

12 tovs

125 mins

100 pts

30/79 (38%)

4/20 on 3s (20%)

31 rebs

7 asts

7 tovs

124 mins

2003-2004 Tmac
99-00 Vince
83 pts

26/76 (34%)

5/28 on 3s (18%)

18 rebs

13 asts

7 tovs

120 mins

150 pts

50/107 (47%)

5/11 on 3s (45%)

30 rebs

16 asts

9 tovs

143 mins

2000-2001 Tmac
2006-2007 Vince
80 pts

29/84 (.345%)

0/2 on 3s (0%)

35 rebs

20 asts

13 tovs

161 mins

193 pts

53/112 (47%)

5/23 on 3s (22

26 rebs

18 asts

17 tovs

166 mins

2004-2005 Tmac
2001-2002 Vince
94 pts

27/76 (.355%)

9/25 on 3s (36%)

23 rebs

21 ast

8 tovs

140 mins

93 pts

32/90 (35%)

3/15 on 3s (20%)

30 rebs

10 asts

9 tovs

126 mins

2001-2002 Tmac
2004-2005 Vince
82 pts

29/71 (41%)

1/5 on 3s (20%)

28 reb

20 ast

7 tovs

119 mins

55 pts

17/47 (36%)

3/8 on 3s (37%)

17 rebs

10 asts

9 tovs

78 mins

Comments: Carter played 28 less mins in crunch time and scored more pts, grabbed more rebounds, shot 2 % better,however Tmac  made more clutch 3s, dished out more asts in the clutch, turned it over less and shot better on crunch time 3s. Might be a tie on this one.

Playoffs Tracy McGrady Vince Carter
2002-2003 Tmac (7 games)
2000-2001 Vince (12 games)
  • 31.7ppg
  • 6.7rpg
  • 4.7apg
  • 10.6/23.6 = 45%
  • 2.3/6.7 on 3s = 34%
  • 27.3ppg
  • 6.5rpg
  • 4.7apg
  • 10.2/23.3 = 44%
  • 2.1/5.1 on 3s= 41%
2003-2004 Tmac
99-00 Vince (3 games)
N/A
  • 19ppg
  • 6.0rpg
  • 6.3apg
  • 5/16.7 = 30%
  • .3/3.3 on 3s = 10%
2000-2001 Tmac (4 games)
2006-2007 Vince  (12 games)
  • 33.8ppg
  • 6.5rpg
  • 8.3apg
  • 12.8/30.8 = 41%
  • .5/2.5 on 3s = 20%
  • 22.3ppg
  • 6.8rpg
  • 5.3apg
  • 7.8/19.6 = 40%
  • 1.8/4.5 on 3s = 39%
2004-2005 Tmac (7 games)
2001-2002 Vince
  • 30.7ppg
  • 7.4rpg
  • 6.7apg
  • 11.1/24.4 = 46%
  • 2.4/6.6 on 3s = 37%
 

N/A

2001-2002 Tmac (4 games)
2004-2005 Vince (4 games)
  • 30.8ppg
  • 6.3rpg
  • 5.5apg
  • 10.5/22.8 = 46%
  • 1.3/4 on 3s = 31%
  • 26.8ppg
  • 8.5rpg
  • 5.8apg
  • 8.8/24 = 36%
  • 1.5/4.8 on 3s = 32%

Thoughts: Clear as day McGrady was the dominant scorer on higher %, Carter was the better rebounder,passing is close but may go to Tmac, VC  shot better on 3s, overall who was better in the playoffs? Tracy McGrady.

HEAD TO HEAD

Tmac: 18.6ppg, 4.9rpg, 4.4apg, .415 fg%, .346 3pt%. 15-10

Carter: 18.3ppg, 4.4rpg, 4.4apg, .406 fg%, 33 3pt%, 10-15\

Unmentioned

2x within those 5 seasons McGrady was top 5 in the MVP race, Carter zero.

Career

Carter 8x All star

Tmac 7x All Star

ROY: VC

Scoring titles: Tmac 2x

All NBA team: Tmac 2, Carter 0

PPG: VC 17.7, Tmac 19.6

Rpg: VC 4.5, Tmac 5.6

Apg: VC 3.3, Tmac 4.4

Conclusion

To pick one of the two was really hard honestly, I believe in his prime Tracy was better but if I had to pick one as a franchise player? Carter.

James Harden or Russell Westbrook?

James Harden or Russell Westbrook?

Note: Since certain stats weren’t around 5 yrs ago, I will compare the two based off the last 3 seasons.  Ever since the 2016-2017 NBA MVP race, the NBA community has been debating who the superior player was, both have great cases so it isn’t as easy to pick one as some may think it is.

OFFENSE

Scoring Russell Westbrook James Harden
2017-2018 25.4 ppg

9.5/21.1 = 44.9%

1.2/4.1 on 3s = 29.8%

5.3/7.1 on FTs = 73.7%

30.4 ppg

9/20.1 = 44.9%

3.7/ 10 on 3s = 37%

8.7/10 on FTs

2016-2017 31.6 ppg

10.2/24 = 42.5%

2.5/7.2 = 34.3%

8.8/10.4 = 84.5 %

29.1 ppg

8.3/18.9 = 44%

3.2/9.3 on 3s = 34.7%

9.2/10.9 on FTs

2015-2016 23.5 ppg

8.2/18.1 = 45.4%

1.3/ 4.3 = 29.6%

5.8/7.2 = 81.2%

29.0 ppg

8.7/19.7 = 43.9%

2.9/8.0 on 3s = 35.9%

8.8/10.2 on FTs = 86%

 

Midrange Russell Westbrook James Harden
2017-2018 211/530 = 39.8% 50/128 = 39.1%
2016-2017 216/595 = 36.3% 65/158 = 41.1%
2015-2016 144/336 = 42.9% 128/316 = 40.5%

 

Restricted Area Russell Westbrook James Harden
2017-2018 395/667 = 59.2% 281/450 = 62.4%
2016-2017 341/596 = 57.2% 275/420 = 65.5%
2015-2016 334/577 = 57.9% 277/456 = 60.7%

 

Catch and shoot Russell Westbrook James Harden
2017-2018 34/95 = 35.8%

26/76 on 3s = 34.2%

45/123 = 36.6%

44/120 on 3s = 36.7%

2016-2017 66/184 = 35.9%

54/155 on 3s = 34.8%

80/202 = 39.6%

77/195 on 3s = 39.5%

2015-2016 36/108 = 33.3%

32/96 on 3s = 33.3%

106/262 = 40.5%

104/251 on 3s = 41.4%

 

Pull up Jumpers Russell Westbrook James Harden
2017-2018 284/781 = 35.9%

63/225 on 3s = 28%

282/704 = 40.1%

213/549 on 3s = 38.8%

2016-2017 378/1006 = 37.6%

139/401 on 3s = 34.7%

269/740 = 36.4%

181/536 on 3s = 33.8%

2015-2016 243/643 = 37.8%

67/235 on 3s = 28.5%

281/731 = 38.4%

126/378 on 3s = 33.3%

 

Off Screen Russell Westbrook James Harden
2017-2018 25 points

9/20

45% FG

39 points

10/16

62.5% FG

2016-2017 50 points

18/39

46.2% FG

46 points

16/46

34.8% FG

2015-2016 21 points

9/18

50% FG

83 points

25/68

36.8% FG

 

Isolation Russell Westbrook James Harden
2017-2018 122/335 = 36.4%

7.5% tov frequency

38.8% score frequency

251/567 = 44.3%

4.7% tov frequency

51% score frequency

2016-2017 172/443 = 38.8%

6.0 TOV Frequency

41.5% score frequency

157/421 = 37.3=

10.3 tov frequency

41.1% score frequency

2015-2016 73/206 = 35.4%

11.8% tov frequency

35.4% score frequency

159/430 = 37%

10.2% tov frequency

41.5% score frequency

Thoughts: James Harden is the better scorer, he has that deadly step back, better shooter all around, he’s even better at finishing around the rim, Russ does have the edge in midrange Js and off screen points, but that’s it. Russ may score more points in a big game, but not efficiently.

Iso DEFENSE Russell Westbrook James Harden
2017-2018 46 points

15/45 = 33.3%

10.3% tov frequency

36.2% score frequency

91 points

35/96 = 36.5%

7.9% tov frequency

38.6% score frequency

2016-2017 51 points

20/47 = 42.6%

12.3% tov frequency

38.6% score frequency

86 points

25/67 = 37%

8.7% tov frequency

44.6% score frequency

2015-2016 49 points

20/51 = 39.2%

10% tov frequency

38.3% score frequency

78 points

28/87 = 32.2%

8.4% tov frequency

36.4% score frequency

 

Defensive efforts Russell Westbrook
2017-2018 265 deflections

174 loose balls recovered

281 contested shots

146 stls

104.4 DRTG

206 deflections

98 loose balls recovered

542 contested shots

126 steals

104.7 DRTG

2016-2017 231 deflections

113 loose balls recovered

296 contested shots

132 stls

104.6 DRTG

237 deflections

93 loose balls recovered

666 contested shots

121 steals

107.3 DRTG

Thoughts: Both get criticized for their lack of defense but when needed to get a key defensive stop, both are very capable of doing so. Russ is the better 1 on 1 defender, Harden does contest more shots but when Westbrook does hustle more on defense, it’s kinda close but I give Russ the edge.

 

Playmaking Russell Westbrook James Harden
2017-2018 10.3 apg

2.15 ast/tov ratio

33.2% usage rate

81 secondary assists

1586 potential asts

7492 touches

8.8 apg

2 ast/tov ratio

36.1% usage rate

56 secondary assists

1177 potential asts

6007 touches

2016-2017 10.4 apg

1.92 ast/tov ratio

40.8% usage rate

67 secondary assists

1810 potential asts

7679 touches

11.2 apg

1.95 ast/tov ratio

34.1% usage rate

66 secondary assists

1810 potential asts

7782 touches

2015-2016 10.4 apg

2.44 ast/tov ratio

31.3% usage rate

58 secondary assists

1561 potential asts

6927 touches

7.5 apg

1.64 ast/tov ratio

32.5% usage rate

58 secondary assists

1216 potential asts

6898 touches

Thoughts: Sure Westbrook is a point guard so he should be a better playmaker, however Harden basically has been one since 2013, both turn it over a lot but make it up with countless asts. It’s safe to say that as far as the numbers go and eye test, Westbrook is the better floor general. Sure Harden knows how to slow it down better, and is better at finding the open man, but Harden has better teammates shooting wise, in other words he has more snipers that are great at catch and shoot compared to some of Westbrook’s teammates.

Rebounding Russell Westbrook James Harden
2017-2018 10.1rpg

162 contested rebs

546 uncontested rebs

5.4 rpg

63 contested rebs

325   uncontested rebs

2016-2017 10.6 rpg

679 uncontested rebs

180 contested rebounds

8.1 rpg

500 uncontested rebs

154 contested rebounds

2015-2016 7.8 rpg

473 uncontested rebs

151 contested rebs

 

6.2 rpg

388 uncontested rebs

117 contested rebounds

Thoughts: Clearly Westbrook is the better rebounder even with a height disadvantage, both tend to stand there to get the reb and not defend their man, but that is because their team is better on the fastbreak when russ gets the reb as well as James. Once again Russ gets the edge.

Crunch time (last 2 mins game within 5) Russell Westbrook James Harden
2017-2018 94 points

34/83 = 41%

28 rebs

6 tovs

12 asts

50 points

13/37 = 35%

6 rebs

5 tovs

3 asts

2016-2017 136 points

42/101% 41%

25 rebs

8 asts

7 tovs

63 points

11/42 = 26%

17 rebs

10 asts

8 tovs

 

2015-2016 66 points

12/46 = 26%

22 rebs

13 asts

10 tovs

83 points

17/56

28 rebs 30%

20 asts

8 tovs

 

Thoughts: Clearly Westbrook is the better better in crunch time, outside 2016, Russ the past few years has been more efficient in big time moments. Even with a cold hand I trust Russ to take over a game than Harden eh2ose a deadly scorer……up until crunch time, no disrespect to James but he’s no closer, no shocker that Russ gets the edge.

Head to head stats Russell Westbrook James Harden
2017-2018 87 points

37/79 = 47%

17 rebs

28 asts

14 tovs

78 points

22/47 = 47%

17 rebs

34 asts

16 tovs

2016-2017 145 points

46/103 = 45%

36 rebs

37 asts

24 tovs

82 points

24/70 = 34%

29 rebs

49 asts

25 tovs

2015-2016 95 points

34/70 = 48%

43 rebs

49 asts

27 tovs

135 points

39/90 = 43%

23 rebs

35 asts

15 tovs

Thoughts: Sure HOU has beaten OKC more times (by 2) but that is a team stat and we’re looking at individual statistics something Russ has been superior at. Outscoring on a higher percentage and out rebounding James was no shocker as he is the better all around player.

Head to head playoffs Russell Westbrook James Harden
2016-2017 187   points (37.4ppg)

59/152 = 39%

58 rebs (11.6 rpg)

54 asts (10.8 apg)

30 tovs (6)

166 points (33.2ppg)

44/107= 41%

32 rebs (6.4 rpg)

35 asts (7 apg)

28 tovs (5.6)

Thoughts: Despite Harden having way more help, Russ who as you can see averaged a TRIPLE DUB which kept OKC close and 4/5 games were decided by single digits even though HOU was more stacked. Russ who was forced to chuck with limited help clear as day outplayed the MVP runner up all around.

Conclusion

Take it how you see it, numbers clearly point to Westbrook as he got the edge is just about every category, but if you think Harden is still the better player that’s fine.

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