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Lonzo Ball Vs Jason Kidd!! Better Rookie??

Comparison between Lonzo Ball and Jason Kidd were a constant topic through out last year season.  So lets take a look like some numbers and see how close or how far they are from each other.  or if the comparison just nonsense.

Better individual rookie season?

Scoring Lonzo Ball Jason Kidd
2017-2018 Lonzo

1994-1995 Kidd

·         10.2ppg

·         3.9/10.8 FGs (36%)

·         1.7/5.7 on 3s (30.5%)

·         .6/1.4 FTs (45.1%)

·         -.5 offensive win shares

·         97 ORTG

·         11.7ppg

·         4.2/10.8 FGs (38.5%)

·         .9/3.3 on 3s (27.2%)

·         2.4/3.5 FTs (69.8%)

·         1.1 offensive win shares

·         103 ORTG

 

Shooting Lonzo Ball Jason Kidd
2017-2018 Lonzo

1994-1995 Kidd

·         203/564 on FGAs

·         90/295 on 3s

·         32/71 on FTs

·         80/167 (47.9%)on Restricted Area

·         20/60 (33%) in paint non R.A.

·         14/43 (32.6%)  from midrange

·         330/857 on FGAs

·         70/257 on 3s

·         192/275 on FTs

Comments: Clearly neither one could shoot in their rookie year, it sucks certain shooting stats are unavailable for Kidd’s rookie season, but based off the stats available for both, Kidd offensively had the edge.

Playmaking Lonzo Ball Jason Kidd
2017-2018 Lonzo

1994-1995 Kidd

·         7.2apg

·         2.6 tovs

·         17.4% usage rate

·         7.7apg

·         3.2 tovs

·         19% usage rate

Thoughts: Jason Kidd had 2 20+point

teammates, Zo had none, but did turn it over less per game, Kidd back then likely had the higher court vision as a rookie but considering who they had, I would say Lonzo was a bit more impressive.

Rebounding Lonzo Ball Jason Kidd
2017-2018 Lonzo

1994-1995 Kidd

·         6.9rpg

·         1.3 offensive rebs

·         5.6 defensive rebs

·         5.4rpg

·         1.9 offensive rebs

·         3.5 defensive rebs

Comments: Both had decent rebounding teammates, Zo did have a bit of a height advantage by 2 inches, but the edge goes to Lonzo.

 

Defense Lonzo Ball Jason Kidd
2017-2018 Lonzo

1994-1995 Kidd

·         1.7stls

·         .8blks

·         2.5 defensive win shares

·         106 DRTG

·         1.9stls

·         .3blks

·         2.6 defensive win shares

·         109 DRTG

Thoughts: It’s close, but considering Lonzo had to guard more elite pgs than Kidd did, the edge might have to go to Ball.

Awards? Lonzo Ball Jason Kidd
2017-2018 Lonzo

1994-1995 Kidd

·         all rookie 2nd team ·         Co-ROY

·         all rookie 1st Team

·         1x rookie of the month

Comments: Ball did have much tougher comp than Kidd to win ROY, but clearly Kidd had more “awards” than Zo during his rookie season.

Conclusion

It is unfortunate Lonzo Ball was only limited to 52 games, but statistically Lonzo did have better season, sure Kidd was Co-ROY while Ball wasn’t even top 3 in ROY voting, again one’s comp to win it was much tougher. Pretty close, but I believe Lonzo was the better rookie

Who Would You Take As A Rookie??

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Least Clutch Player Since 1997

Have you ever wondered who was the worst in 4th Q crunch time offensively? Well, in case you have, now you will finally get your question answered.

Note: Minimum of 50 attempts

  1. 14 Jenning (DET)- 12/56 (21.4%) 5/26 on 3s. Not surprising Brandon Jennings after looking at his shooting percentages.
  2. 04 Sheed (DET)- 12/54 (22.2%) 2/17 on 3s. Rasheed Wallace being this high shocked me, but he wasn’t known for clutch so 🤷‍♂️.
  3. 14 Knight (MIL)- 15/64 (23.4%) 3/17 on 3s. What can we say about Brandon Knight, he’s known to have bad luck so for him being top 3 doesn’t surprise me.
  4. 10 Mayo (MEM)- 16/66 (24.2%) 6/31 on 3s. In his defense it was OJ Mayo’s second season.
  5. 01 Marbury (NJN)- 16/65 (24.5%) 5/21 on 3s. Stephon Marbury was ballin that season but not in 4th Q crunch time.
  6. 03 Kidd (NJN)- 16/64 (25%) 3/24 on 3s. This was the year Jason Kidd led the Nets to the Finals.
  7. 97 Ellis (DEN)- 16/63 (25.4%) 6/34 on 3s. At age 36 Dale Ellis found himself struggling offensively in crunch time.
  8. 18 Tyreke (MEM)- 14/55 (25.5%) 5/18 on 3s. The arguably most improved player Tyreke Evans sure improved from the previous year, but not in pressure moments.

08 Ricky D (MIA)- 13/51 (25.5%) 9/24 on 3s. Ricky Davis is now in Ice Cube’s basketball league, the Big 3.

9.11 Jennings (MIL)- 16/62 (25.8%) 3/19 on 3s. Once again Brandon Jennings has now  found himself on this list twice.

  1. 08 Pierce (BOS)- 13/50 (26%) 2/10 on 3s  To see a Finals MVP like Paul Pierce on this list is shocking.

00 Bibby (VAN)- 13/50 (26%) 2/8 on 3s.  In just his second season Mike Bibby, son of Henry Bibby had a solid season offensively, just not in crunch time.

97 Sprewell- 13/50 (26%) 3/12 on 3s. Yes this was the same year Latrell Sprewell choked his coach PJ Carlesimo.

Honorable mentions???

01 Antoine W (BOS)- 19/72 (26.4%) 9/37 on 3s

12 B.Jennings- 20/74 (27%) 6/30 on 3s

11 D.Cousins (SAC)- 16/59 (27.1%) 0/2 on 3s

08 Jamal C.- 22/81 (27.2%) 7/25 on 3s

00 L.Sprewell- 15/55 (27.3%) 1/9 on 3s

16 B.Knight- 14/51 (27.5%) 4/21 on 3s

04 Eddie J- 14/51 (27.5%) 7/31 on 3s

18 Melo (OKC)-19/68 (27.9%) 6/33 on 3s

Who will be one guy that you wouldn’t want to take the last shot? Who did we miss?

Ben Simmons vs Jayson Tatum

Ben Simmons vs Jayson Tatum

Note: Personally I find it ridiculous to ask which is the better individual considering it’s not even close, but to shut these haters up, it’s time we end this debate with undeniable facts.

Scoring pt.1 Ben Simmons Jayson Tatum
2016-2017
  • 15.8ppg
  • 6.7/12.3 FGs = 54.5%
  • 2.4/4.3 FTs= 56%
  • 13.9ppg
  • 5/10.4 FGs = 47.5%
  • 2.7/3.2 FTs = 82.6%
  • 1.3/3.0 on 3s = 43%
Scoring pt.2 Ben Simmons Jayson Tatum
2017-2018
  • 229/429 (46.5%) on drives
  • 21/70 (30%) on post ups
  • 125/176 (71%) in the paint
  • 139/351 (39.6%) in paint non R.A.
  • 30/108 (27.8%) from midrange
  • 2/12 (16.7%) off catch and shoot
  • 64/194 (33%) on pull ups
  • 47/95 (49.5%) on Iso
  • 111 ortg
  • 4.2 offensive win shares
  • 55.7% True shooting %
  • 34 .4% of FGMs came off an ast
  • 101/225 (44.9%) on drives
  • 13/34 (38.2%) on post ups
  • 43/66 (65.2%) in the paint
  • 22/79 (27.8%) in paint non R.A.
  • 93/213 (43.7%( from midrange
  • 93/195 (47.7%) from midrange
  • 107/266 (40.2%) on pull ups
  • 35/95 (38.5%) on Iso
  • 111 ortg
  • 3 offensive win shares
  • 58.6% True shooting %
  • 34% of FGMs came off an ast

Thoughts: Jayson overall is the better scorer since he can score in more ways, but Ben did average more points while being more efficient, and before you say “Ben was mostly guarded by smaller point guards” let me pull out this stat, of the 31 different  players to defend Ben on at least 50 possessions, ONLY TWO were pgs (Dunn and Jrue who made all Defensive 1st Team)

Playmaking Ben Simmons Jayson Tatum
2017-2018
  • 8.2apg
  • 17.1 potential asts per  game
  • 2.38 ast/tov ratio
  • 74.1 made passes per game.
  • 22.2 % usage rate
  • 4.45 secs per touch
  • 95 touches per game
  • generated 1621 points by asts.
  • 1.6apg
  • 3.1 potential asts per game
  • 1.12 ast/tov ratio
  • 27.8 made passes per game
  • 19.6% usage rate
  • 2.53 secs per touch
  • 42.7 touches per game
  • generated 317 points by asts.

Comments: How many 6’10 dudes can facilitate like Ben? Based off eye tests and stats, Simmons appears to be the far superior playmaker, obviously Tatum wasn’t asked or needed to be their main playmaker but that’s not Ben’s fault.

 

Rebounding Ben Simmons Jayson Tatum
2017-2018
  • 8.1rpg
  • 1.8 offensive rebs
  • 6.3 defensive rebs
  • 1.8 contested rebs
  • avg reb distance: 7.4ft
  • 5.0 rpg
  • .6 offensive rebs
  • 4.4 defensive rebs
  • 1.0 contested reb
  • avg reb distance: 6.9ft

Thoughts: Despite playing on the league’s best rebounding team (BOS was 6th), Ben whose about 2 inches taller grabbed a lot more boards of all kind, it is super obvious Simmons won this category.

DEFENSE Ben Simmons Jayson Tatum
2017-2018
  • 221 deflections
  • 146 loose balls (2.9) recovered (1.8)
  • 660 contested shots (8.2)
  • Held his man to 384/925 shooting (41.5%)
  • guarding the 2s: 270/550 (49%)
  • guarding the 3s: 114/374 (30.5%)
  • On Iso D: 33/93 (35.5%)
  • 5.0 defensive win shares
  • guarded 28 diff players on at least 50 possessions
  • 135 deflections (1.7)
  • 68 loose balls recovered (.8)
  • 509 contested shots (6.4)
  • Held his man to 273/628 shooting (43.5%)
  • guarding the 2s: 178/366 (48.6%)
  • guarding the 3s: 95/262 (36.3%)
  • On Iso D: 35/95 (36.8%)
  • 4.0 defensive win shares
  • guarded 19 diff players on at least 50 possessions

Comments: Ben is the more versatile defender, the numbers show who played better defense and hustled more, certain defensive stats are close like Iso D, but who leads most those stats? Yup, Ben does.

4th Q crunch time Ben Simmons Jayson Tatum
2017-2018
  • 128 mins
  • 69pts
  • 21/32 shooting (65.6%)
  • 27/48 on FTs (56.3%)
  • 25 rebs
  • 23 asts
  • 10 tovs
  • 12 steals, 2 blks
  • 44 +/-
  • 124 mins
  • 72pts
  • 28/44 shooting (63.6%)
  • 10/12 on FTs = 83.3%)
  • 22 rebs
  • 7 asts
  • 10 tovs
  • 3 steals, 6 blks
  • 4 +/-

Thoughts: As you can see, Ben has the edge in all around game, for scoring I’ll take Tatum to take the shot, was 6/9 on crunch time 3s, having said that, overall Ben was more useful or valuable in crunch time than Jayson was.

Playoffs Ben Simmons Jayson Tatum
2017-2018
  • 16.3ppg
  • 6.1/12.5 = 48.8%
  • 4.1 / 5.8 FTs = 70.7%
  • 9.4 rebs
  • 7.2 asts
  • 1.7 stls, .8 blks
  • 4.4 tovs

Comments: Yes, versus Brad Stevens’s Celtics Ben Simmons did struggle which is not super shocking considering Brad is a great defensive minded coach, but when you look at what he did versus Miami round one, you’ll be impressed. While guarded by underrated defenders like Winslow, Josh Richardson and James Johnson he shot 52%, and averaged 18, 10.6, and 9 asts, almost a triple double! Ben that round led Philly in rebs, asts and steals per game and was their 3rd leading scorer. Tatum in round one versus the Milwaukee Bucks was his team’s 4th leading scorer, Terry Rozier outscored Jayson for crying out loud, the only thing Tatum led his team in that series was steals.

Conclusion

One last stat, Ben’s Player Efficiency Rating was 20 to Tatum’s 15.3 What you want to do with this information is entirely up to you, having said that, I do believe it’s quite clear which one should be ranked higher than the other.

Who do you think is better??

 

Hassan Whiteside vs Andre Drummond

Hassan Whiteside vs Andre Drummond

Note: Before I do my research I already know  it’s gonna be pretty close.

Scoring pt.1 Hassan Whiteside Andre Drummond
2017-2018
  • 14ppg
  • 5.8/10.7 = 54% FG
  • 2.4/3.4 = 70% FTs
  • 33.7 touches per game
  • 15ppg
  • 6/11.3 = 52.9% FG
  • 3.1 /5.1 = 60.5% FT
  • 52.3 touches per game
2016-2017
  • 17ppg
  • 7/12.6 = 55.7% FG
  • 2.9/4.6 = 62.8%
  • 37.4 touches per game
  • 13.6ppg
  • 6/11.2 = 53% FG
  • 1.7/4.4 = 38.6% FT
  • 38.3 touches per game
2015-2016
  • 14.2ppg
  • 5.7/9.3 = 60.6% FG
  • 2.9/4.5 = 65% FT
  • 34.8 touches per game
  • 16.2ppg
  • 6.8/13.1 = 52% FG
  • 2.6/7.2 = 35.5% FT
  • 38.6 touches per game

 

Scoring pt.2 Hassan Whiteside Andre Drummond
2017-2018
  • 197/284 (69.4%) in Restricted Area
  • 78/190 (41%) in paint non R.A.
  • 35/102 (34.3%) from midrange.
  • 58.9% of FGMs were off an ast.
  • 396/629 (63%) in Restricted Area
  • 63/216 (28.7%) in paint non R.A.
  • 8/25 (32%) from midrange
  • 54.5% of FGMs came off an ast
2016-2017
  • 384/494 (69.6%) in Restricted Area
  • 141/327 (43.1%) in paint non R.A.
  • 57/152 (37.5%) from midrange
  • 58.4% of FGMs came off an ast.
  • 320/488 (65.6%) in Restricted Area
  • 121/310 (39%) in paint non R.A
  • 40/106 (37.7%) from midrange
  • 60.2% of FGMs came off an ast
2015-2016
  • 282/379 (74.4%) in Restricted Area
  • 82/184 (44.6%) in paint non R.A.
  • 49/119 (41.2%) from midrange
  • 61.6 % of FGMs came off an ast
  • 398/668 (59.6%) in Restricted Area
  • 136/222 (42.2%) in paint non R.A.
  • 16/64 (25%) from midrange
  • 53% of FGMs came off an ast

Comments: Andre did score more than Hassan sure, but who scored more efficiently? Hassan who also shot better from midrange, in the paint non R.A., also shot a higher percentage from the restricted area. Although Whiteside did have better playmakers feeding him the ball (Wade and Dragic) compared to Andre’s playmakers (Reggie Jackson and Ish Smith?), also Whiteside at the foul line was decent, while Drummond was horrible.

Rebounding Hassan Whiteside Andre Drummond
2017-2018
  • 11.4rpg
  • 3.2 offensive rebs
  • 8.2 defensive rebs
  • 4.9 contested rebs
  • avg reb distance: 3.8ft.
  • 16rpg
  • 5.1 offensive rebs
  • 10.9 defensive rebs
  • 7.1 contested rebs
  • avg reb distance: 4ft
2016-2017
  • 14.1rpg
  • 3.8 offensive rebs
  • 10.3 defensive rebs
  • 6.4 contested rebs
  • avg reb distance: 3.8ft.
  • 13.8rpg
  • 4.5 offensive rebs
  • 9.3 defensive rebs
  • 6.5 contested rebs
  • avg reb distance: 4ft
2015-2016
  • 11.8rpg
  • 3.3 offensive rebs
  • 8.5 defensive rebs
  • 5.7 contested rebs
  • avg reb distance: 4.1ft.
  • 14.8rpg
  • 4.9 offensive rebs
  • 9.9 defensive rebs
  • 7.3 contested rebs
  • avg reb distance: 3.8ft

Thoughts: Drummond has the led the league in rebounds 2 times to Hassan’s one, averaged more offensive rebounds  each year of the three, grabbed more contested rebounds along with more defensive rebounds, it is quite obvious Andre> Whiteside as a rebounder.

DEFENSE Hassan Whiteside Andre Drummond
2017-2018
  • 1.7 blocks
  • Opponents made: 271/577 (47%) on HW
  • guarding the 2s: 240/505 (47.5%)
  • guarding the 3s: 31/72 (43%)
  • Iso D: 14/27 (51.9%)
  • contested 9.6 shots per game
  • Opponents shot 152/271 (56%) at the rim
  • 99 DRTG
  • 3 defensive win shares
  • 1.4 blocks
  • Opponents made: 481/985 (48.8%) on AD
  • guarding the 2s: 411/812 (50.6%)
  • guarding the 3s: 70/173 (40.5%)
  • Iso D: 27/51 (52.9%)
  • contested 11.2 shots per game
  • Opponents shot 268/448 (59.8%) at the rim
  • 99 DRTG
  • 5.7 defensive win shares
2016-2017
  • 2.1 blocks
  • Opponents made: 459/999 (45.9%) on HW
  • guarding the 2s: 415/869 (47.8%)
  • guarding the 3s: 44/130 (33.8%)
  • Iso D: 16/46 (34.8%)
  • contested 11.1 shots per game
  • Opponents shot: 225/433 (52%) at the rim
  • 100 DRTG
  • 5.3 defensive win shares
  • 1.1 blocks
  • Opponents made: 466/903 (51.6%) on AD
  • guarding the 2s: 421/773 (54.5%)
  • guarding the 3s: 45/130 (34.6%)
  • Iso D: 28/58 (48.3%)
  • contested 9.2 shots per game
  • Opponents shot: 226/356 (63.5%) at the rim.
  • 99 DRTG
  • 5.3 defensive win shares
2015-2016
  • 3.7 blocks
  • Opponents made 488/1056 (46.2%) on HW
  • guarding the 2s: 470/993 (47.3%)
  • guarding the 3s: 18/63 (28.6%)
  • Iso D: 20/42 (47.6%)
  • Opponents shot: 253/467 (54.2%) at the rim
  • 95 DRTG
  • 5.3 defensive win shares
  • 1.6 blocks
  • Opponents made: 558/1111 (50.2%) on AD
  • guarding the 2s: 516/1016 (50.8%)
  • guarding the 3s: 42/95 (44.2%)
  • Iso D: 25/58 (43%)
  • Opponents shot 283/482 (58.7%) at the rim
  • 98 DRTG
  • 5.5 defensive win shares

Comments: Hassan does the edge in more categories including shot blocking, defense on isolation, defending 3s and 2s, rim protection, and defensive rating, oh yeah, Hassan made all Defensive 2nd team in 2016, Andre Drummond has never made any all Defensive teams before.

4th Q crunch time Hassan Whiteside Andre Drummond
2017-2018
  • 70 mins
  • 30pts
  • 13/21 FGs (61.9%)
  • 4/7 FTs (57%)
  • 31 rebs
  • 4 blocks
  • 110 mins
  • 47pts
  • 21/38 FGs (55.3%)
  • 5/10 FTs (50%)
  • 46 rebs
  • 9 blocks
2016-2017
  • 123 mins
  • 42pts
  • 16/30 FGs ( 53%)
  • 10/16 FTs (62.5%)
  • 43 rebs
  • 4 blocks
  • 76 mins
  • 30pts
  • 12/17 FGs (70.6%)
  • 6/15 FTs (40%)
  • 32 rebs
  • 3 blocks
2015-2016
  • 85 mins
  • 43pts
  • 16/21 FGs (76.2%)
  • 11/19 FTs (57.9%)
  • 42 rebs
  • 10 blocks
  • 96 mins
  • 52pts
  • 17/26 FGs (65.4%)
  • 18/46 FTs (39%)
  • 39 rebs
  • 4 blocks

Thoughts: Andre did score more points, grabbed more rebs (1 more), but Hassan did shoot better from the foul line, had a higher percentage on field goals, blocked more shots as well.

Conclusion

In my opinion, it is pretty clear Hassan> Andre Drummond, based off the provided unbiased information. Who do YOU believe is the better individual?

 

Prime Dwight Howard vs prime Patrick Ewing

Prime Dwight Howard vs prime Patrick Ewing

Written by Kevin Bertalotto.

Note: In this unbiased article we’ll get to see Dwight Howard’s 5 best seasons vs Ewing’s.

Scoring Dwight Howard Patrick Ewing
08-12 Dwight

89-94 Ewing

  • 20.6ppg
  • 7.2/12.2 FGAs= 59%
  • 6.2/10.8 FTAs = 57.9%
  • 28.7 offensive win shares
  • 25.6ppg
  • 10.1/18.5 FGAs = 51.8%
  • 5.4/7.2 FTAs = 74.9%

Comments: Although there is no stats on Ewing’s shooting, we do know he was able to shoot jumpers, unlike Dwight, definitely had more offensive moves again, unlike Dwight. No doubt based off the stats and footages of the two it is quite obvious Patrick Ewing was the better scorer.

Rebounding Dwight Howard Patrick Ewing
08-12 Dwight

90-94 Ewing

  • 13.9 rpg
  • 3.8 offensive rebs
  • 10.1 defensive rebs
  • grabbed 31% of team’s total rebs
  • 11.3rpg
  • 2.6 offensive rebs
  • 8.7 defensive rebs
  • grabbed 21% of team’s total rebs

Thoughts: Although Dwight averaged more rebounds than Ewing, we must factor in several things like Pat played with Charles Oakley during those 5 yrs who avg 10.5 rebs, D12 never had a teammate during those 5 yrs that rebounds like Oakley, for multiple seasons Rashard Lewis was Dwight’s best rebounding teammate. The average pace from 08-12 was 92.04, from 90-94 was 96.02, we all know in the 00s teams shot more 3s than in the Ewing’s time making it harder for centers like Dwight to get rebounds. This category is so close when you factor in everything, so let’s call it a tie.

Defense Dwight Howard Patrick Ewing
08-12 Dwight

90-94 Ewing

  • 2.5 blocks
  • 1.1 steals
  • 33.3 defensive win shares
  • 96 DRTG
  • 3.0 blocks
  • 1 steal
  • 33.8 defensive win shares
  • 98 DRTG

Comments: In Dwight’s defense, Patrick Ewing did benefit from hand checking, allowed to be a bit more physical, but Pat definitely made more players shook than D12 who many consider “soft”. Although Ewing was more tough on defense, I do think Dwight was the better rim protector if you were to have Ewing play by the rules Howard played with. Sure Pat played against more elite centers than Dwight did in those 5 yrs, but we can’t deny D12 was the slightly better defender, come on og the 5 years not once was Ewing top 3 in DPOY, meanwhile Howard won it 3x in a row!

Playoffs Dwight Howard Patrick Ewing
08-11 Dwight (53 games)

90-94 Ewing (65 games)

  • 20.7ppg
  • 7/11.6 FGAs = 60%
  • 14.3rpg
  • 1.5 asts
  • 2.9blks
  • 4.7 defensive win shares
  • 24.3 PER
  • 98 DRTG
  • 23.8ppg
  • 9.5/20.1 FGAs = 47%
  • 11.2rpg
  • 2.5 asts
  • 2.5 blks
  • 5 defensive win shares
  • 21 PER
  • 101 DRTG

Comments: Almost the same in the regular season, Ewing was the better offensive player but Dwight had a slight edge on D, as far as rebounding Dwight does lead that along with efficiency.

Advanced stats Dwight Howard
08-12 Dwight

90-94 Ewing

Player Efficiency Rating- 24.5

Value Over Replacement- 21.3

  • Player Efficiency Rating- 23.2
  • Value Over Replacement- 22.7

In those 5 years:

Dwight: 5x All Star, won DPOY for 3 consecutive years, made all defensive team 1st and 2nd all 5 yrs, all NBA 1st Team 5x, led the NBA in rebounds 4x, led the league in blocks 2x,  was top 3 in MVP voting, led Orlando to the Finals (09)

Ewing: 5x All star, made all NBA 1st Team 1x, all NBA 2nd team 3x, led New York to the Finals (94).

Conclusion

Yes both are great players and did what they were asked to do very well, having said when asked who in their prime was the better individual, I would take Ewing, but not in a heartbeat.

Comment Who Would You Take?? Why?