Ben Simmons vs Jayson Tatum

Ben Simmons vs Jayson Tatum

Note: Personally I find it ridiculous to ask which is the better individual considering it’s not even close, but to shut these haters up, it’s time we end this debate with undeniable facts.

Scoring pt.1 Ben Simmons Jayson Tatum
2016-2017
  • 15.8ppg
  • 6.7/12.3 FGs = 54.5%
  • 2.4/4.3 FTs= 56%
  • 13.9ppg
  • 5/10.4 FGs = 47.5%
  • 2.7/3.2 FTs = 82.6%
  • 1.3/3.0 on 3s = 43%
Scoring pt.2 Ben Simmons Jayson Tatum
2017-2018
  • 229/429 (46.5%) on drives
  • 21/70 (30%) on post ups
  • 125/176 (71%) in the paint
  • 139/351 (39.6%) in paint non R.A.
  • 30/108 (27.8%) from midrange
  • 2/12 (16.7%) off catch and shoot
  • 64/194 (33%) on pull ups
  • 47/95 (49.5%) on Iso
  • 111 ortg
  • 4.2 offensive win shares
  • 55.7% True shooting %
  • 34 .4% of FGMs came off an ast
  • 101/225 (44.9%) on drives
  • 13/34 (38.2%) on post ups
  • 43/66 (65.2%) in the paint
  • 22/79 (27.8%) in paint non R.A.
  • 93/213 (43.7%( from midrange
  • 93/195 (47.7%) from midrange
  • 107/266 (40.2%) on pull ups
  • 35/95 (38.5%) on Iso
  • 111 ortg
  • 3 offensive win shares
  • 58.6% True shooting %
  • 34% of FGMs came off an ast

Thoughts: Jayson overall is the better scorer since he can score in more ways, but Ben did average more points while being more efficient, and before you say “Ben was mostly guarded by smaller point guards” let me pull out this stat, of the 31 different  players to defend Ben on at least 50 possessions, ONLY TWO were pgs (Dunn and Jrue who made all Defensive 1st Team)

Playmaking Ben Simmons Jayson Tatum
2017-2018
  • 8.2apg
  • 17.1 potential asts per  game
  • 2.38 ast/tov ratio
  • 74.1 made passes per game.
  • 22.2 % usage rate
  • 4.45 secs per touch
  • 95 touches per game
  • generated 1621 points by asts.
  • 1.6apg
  • 3.1 potential asts per game
  • 1.12 ast/tov ratio
  • 27.8 made passes per game
  • 19.6% usage rate
  • 2.53 secs per touch
  • 42.7 touches per game
  • generated 317 points by asts.

Comments: How many 6’10 dudes can facilitate like Ben? Based off eye tests and stats, Simmons appears to be the far superior playmaker, obviously Tatum wasn’t asked or needed to be their main playmaker but that’s not Ben’s fault.

 

Rebounding Ben Simmons Jayson Tatum
2017-2018
  • 8.1rpg
  • 1.8 offensive rebs
  • 6.3 defensive rebs
  • 1.8 contested rebs
  • avg reb distance: 7.4ft
  • 5.0 rpg
  • .6 offensive rebs
  • 4.4 defensive rebs
  • 1.0 contested reb
  • avg reb distance: 6.9ft

Thoughts: Despite playing on the league’s best rebounding team (BOS was 6th), Ben whose about 2 inches taller grabbed a lot more boards of all kind, it is super obvious Simmons won this category.

DEFENSE Ben Simmons Jayson Tatum
2017-2018
  • 221 deflections
  • 146 loose balls (2.9) recovered (1.8)
  • 660 contested shots (8.2)
  • Held his man to 384/925 shooting (41.5%)
  • guarding the 2s: 270/550 (49%)
  • guarding the 3s: 114/374 (30.5%)
  • On Iso D: 33/93 (35.5%)
  • 5.0 defensive win shares
  • guarded 28 diff players on at least 50 possessions
  • 135 deflections (1.7)
  • 68 loose balls recovered (.8)
  • 509 contested shots (6.4)
  • Held his man to 273/628 shooting (43.5%)
  • guarding the 2s: 178/366 (48.6%)
  • guarding the 3s: 95/262 (36.3%)
  • On Iso D: 35/95 (36.8%)
  • 4.0 defensive win shares
  • guarded 19 diff players on at least 50 possessions

Comments: Ben is the more versatile defender, the numbers show who played better defense and hustled more, certain defensive stats are close like Iso D, but who leads most those stats? Yup, Ben does.

4th Q crunch time Ben Simmons Jayson Tatum
2017-2018
  • 128 mins
  • 69pts
  • 21/32 shooting (65.6%)
  • 27/48 on FTs (56.3%)
  • 25 rebs
  • 23 asts
  • 10 tovs
  • 12 steals, 2 blks
  • 44 +/-
  • 124 mins
  • 72pts
  • 28/44 shooting (63.6%)
  • 10/12 on FTs = 83.3%)
  • 22 rebs
  • 7 asts
  • 10 tovs
  • 3 steals, 6 blks
  • 4 +/-

Thoughts: As you can see, Ben has the edge in all around game, for scoring I’ll take Tatum to take the shot, was 6/9 on crunch time 3s, having said that, overall Ben was more useful or valuable in crunch time than Jayson was.

Playoffs Ben Simmons Jayson Tatum
2017-2018
  • 16.3ppg
  • 6.1/12.5 = 48.8%
  • 4.1 / 5.8 FTs = 70.7%
  • 9.4 rebs
  • 7.2 asts
  • 1.7 stls, .8 blks
  • 4.4 tovs

Comments: Yes, versus Brad Stevens’s Celtics Ben Simmons did struggle which is not super shocking considering Brad is a great defensive minded coach, but when you look at what he did versus Miami round one, you’ll be impressed. While guarded by underrated defenders like Winslow, Josh Richardson and James Johnson he shot 52%, and averaged 18, 10.6, and 9 asts, almost a triple double! Ben that round led Philly in rebs, asts and steals per game and was their 3rd leading scorer. Tatum in round one versus the Milwaukee Bucks was his team’s 4th leading scorer, Terry Rozier outscored Jayson for crying out loud, the only thing Tatum led his team in that series was steals.

Conclusion

One last stat, Ben’s Player Efficiency Rating was 20 to Tatum’s 15.3 What you want to do with this information is entirely up to you, having said that, I do believe it’s quite clear which one should be ranked higher than the other.

Who do you think is better??

 

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